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"The global push to kill privacy makes me sad."

This "push to kill privacy" if it exists has been carried out by so-called "tech" companies

European governments are not killing privacy. They cannot legally conduct the sort of mass surveillance done by so-called "tech" companies

If, through "Chat Control" legislation that targets these companies, governments effectively kill the commercial viablity of so-called "tech" companies in Silicon Valley performing intermediation with no legal limits on surveiillance,^1 including offering "chat services", then, in fact, these governments may be restoring privacy that has been lost to Silicon Valley surveillance, whether that is the governments' intention or not

1. If there were legal limits, if users' privacy from so-called "tech" companies was protected by law, then governments could not ask for access to other peoples' "private chats" because there would be no one to ask. Government would have to ask the chat partcipants for their own chats.^2 The Silicon Valley "business model" of unregulated intermediation and surveillance could not exist. It would be illegal

2. In that case, the chat participants could defend themselves. For example reasonable suspicion of illegal activity might be required as grounds to make such requests

No one should believe that Silicon Valley is trying to protect anyone's privacy. Nothing could be further from the truth. Those companies have systematically destroyed privacy for profit at unprecedented scale

Any legislation that targets these companies, such as "Chat Control", may actually improve privacy if it reduces the number of people using those company servers

"In almost every meeting, they would unleash a one-word imprecation to sum up any and all who stood in the way of their master plans.

"Bastards!" Larry would exclaim when a blogger raised concerns about user privacy."

From Douglas Edwards' book I'm Feeling Lucky: Confessions of Google Employee #59 (2011)

Similar books about what goes on inside Meta are actively being supressed

There was a time when the internet existed without these intermediaries

The internet existed before them and it will still exist after them