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microgpttoday at 6:42 PM10 repliesview on HN

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antonkochubeytoday at 6:54 PM

Yes, increasing demand for housing and increasing supply of labor definitely does nothing for both salaries and housing prices

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throwaway85825today at 7:08 PM

Supply and demand economic denialism is dangerously widespread.

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saberiencetoday at 8:32 PM

"Brown people existing doesn't hurt you"

Yes, existing doesn't hurt. But when you import mass amounts of people who don't talk your countries language, have no intention of learning, and have no intention of getting a job, and on top of it are intensely religious supporting a religion which is antithetical to your values, then it DOES hurt.

Western Europe has simply allowed too many Muslim immigrants in then they could ever successfully integrated. Now Europe is full of ghettos of Muslim immigrants who don't get jobs, don't learn the languages, and sap resources which the countries cannot afford.

Note: this isn't about being racist or not, it's just common sense. There is a limit of how many immigrants a country can take, financially and culturally.

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fakedangtoday at 6:58 PM

> How can you be sure the opinion moved to the center and not that the center moved to the right?

I'm pretty sure he meant that what used to be a far-right view is now considered mainstream. Which is true, since even the EU Parliament has now begun passing laws vs migrants, and governments all across Western Europe are now taking steps against migrants.

> Brown people existing doesn't hurt you.

Correct, and I'm one of them. Unfortunately some abhorrent elements of our culture, traditions and values hurt erstwhile peaceful societies.

decimalenoughtoday at 8:28 PM

> Brown people existing doesn't hurt you.

In Sweden, brown people are heavily overrepresented in violent crime, so many people are getting hurt.

Obligatory disclaimer: the problem is not caused by skin color, but by a complex mess of poverty, lack of opportunity, societal attitudes within and against immigrant groups, etc. But voters hearing about a steady drum beat of robberies, rapes, drive by shootings (yes, in Sweden!) don't really care.

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xdennistoday at 8:57 PM

> Brown people existing doesn't hurt you.

BBC:

    About 58% of men convicted in Sweden of rape and attempted rape over the past five years were born abroad, according to data from Swedish national TV.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45269764
arjietoday at 7:27 PM

Considering the history of labor unions and their support for the banning of Asian citizenship in the US, I think the right frame is that migration support / opposition has something to do with other things but not entirely. There are only a few ways to come to the US and the employment-based approach is probably the most widely used by unconnected foreigners seeking to live in the US and that pathway is intended to be abolished by Senator Bernie Sanders with no replacement planned. I think it's hard to describe that senator as particularly right-wing.

Likewise, it was a labour union in Georgia that lobbied to get Koreans deported from the US. It should be unsurprising that those who hold to the Lump of Labor economic school should oppose immigration and that's quite popular among the left-wing.

nec4btoday at 7:10 PM

> Brown people existing doesn't hurt you.

Why did you feel the need to say "Brown people" instead of migrants? Are you trying to play the racist card? Poles are white and when they migrated en mass to Britain they were also making locals very unhappy.

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17761989today at 7:52 PM

they can exist @ home

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Geonodetoday at 7:42 PM

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