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willmarchlast Monday at 10:05 PM2 repliesview on HN

It's a little befuddling that you are pretending there are countries where every person in that country share the exact same thoughts, ideas, and beliefs. Where is this mythical place?

Are we determining an individual's potential, liberty, rights and character based on group population polling now, or do we believe in individual autonomy and potential?

Anyone claiming an entire country holds one singular view (on any topic) is not truly discussing in good faith.


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mjburgesslast Monday at 10:11 PM

No one has claimed that. You're the only one claiming a border immigration policy needs to correctly quantify over the universal non-citizen class.

No state in the world today, nor in all of history, has that view. Nor is it, on the face of it, even really coherent. There is nothing to be said about the "All" of the others. Only that we don't owe them much.

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remarkEonlast Monday at 10:15 PM

Why are you continually making up a strawman to argue against? If a country has regressive views that are one standard deviation more regressive than the mean view on that topic in Europe, and you allow 1 million people from that country to migrate, has Europe gotten more or less regressive in it’s views on that topic? Has it stayed the same? Notice that I am not making a claim that 100% of the population hold only 1 view, and no one else is making this claim either, but that these view exist on a distribution that has been repeatedly modeled.

Your views about individual autonomy etc are, while probably good rules to live by in your personal interactions, not really relevant to migration at the population level.

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