Yes, “somewhere in your teens” includes people who are still minors, and again, if their parents have no grounds for residence, it is typical even of more open countries that their children don’t either.
> “somewhere in your teens” includes people who are still minors
It does!
Versus jus soli which includes people that are only days old...
> again, if their parents have no grounds for residence, it is typical
Again I'm talking about what I find moral, not what's typical.
And if you have no grounds for residence you're usually not staying there for over a decade. If someone does stay and raise a child for well over a decade, despite lack of grounds, there's a point where that child shouldn't be forced "back" to a "homeland" that isn't their actual home.
Also if it's more convincing we could stick to a threshold of 18 for right now. That would still do most of the job.
> “somewhere in your teens” includes people who are still minors
It does!
Versus jus soli which includes people that are only days old...
> again, if their parents have no grounds for residence, it is typical
Again I'm talking about what I find moral, not what's typical.
And if you have no grounds for residence you're usually not staying there for over a decade. If someone does stay and raise a child for well over a decade, despite lack of grounds, there's a point where that child shouldn't be forced "back" to a "homeland" that isn't their actual home.
Also if it's more convincing we could stick to a threshold of 18 for right now. That would still do most of the job.