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chmod775last Tuesday at 2:03 PM2 repliesview on HN

> A pardon absolves one of the sin as if it didn't happen, legally.

This is incorrect. A pardon is not an expungement. The conviction remains a usable historical fact and could still be referenced in later legal procedings.

Exact ramifications vary between innocence-based pardons, rehabilitiation-based pardons, and pure discretionary clemency.


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cogman10last Tuesday at 2:40 PM

In fact, part of accepting a pardon is accepting guilt. That can particularly be consequential if there is a civil case associated with the criminal charges. For example, if I'm charged with drunk driving and I run into someone's house, by accepting a pardon I have to admit that I'm guilty of drunk driving which the home owner can then use in their civil suit to extra money for the damage I caused.

This is part of the reason why people will sometimes not accept a pardon.

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dylan604last Tuesday at 3:48 PM

I think you're missing the point. If you are a felon, there is baggage that comes with it which varies depending on the state. Some felons can no longer vote or legally own a firearm. Some felons find it hard to find a place to rent. Unless of course, you've been pardoned.

I also even stipulated that people could not be made to forget about it. Yet, you then reiterate that after telling me I was incorrect.