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dozerlytoday at 4:18 PM15 repliesview on HN

We have one of the worlds most prosperous economies, and half of the US is living in abject poverty while quality of life for everyone is decreasing.


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taerictoday at 4:22 PM

I'm going to go on a limb and say half of the US is not living in abject poverty? Nor can I get behind the idea that quality of life for folks is on the down trend.

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legitstertoday at 4:31 PM

"Abject poverty" is currently defined as living on less that $3 a day and dealing with things like chronic hunger and exposure.

The best approximation would be the homeless population in the US (about 500k people), but even then most homeless would not even qualify.

"Half" is a gross exaggeration.

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sfdlkj3jk342atoday at 4:24 PM

What's your definition of "abject poverty"?

I find it hard to believe that half the US would meet the criteria for any reasonable definition.

jandrewrogerstoday at 5:28 PM

The BLS and Federal Reserve both have data showing that the median American household has >$1,000 left over every month after all ordinary expenses, including housing, healthcare, and iPhones.

Any definition of "abject poverty" that includes a comfortable lifestyle and $12-15k excess income every year is not a serious definition.

grueztoday at 4:23 PM

>and half of the US is living in abject poverty

Source? All the ones I know of use questionable methodology like: "being able to afford a 2 bedroom apartment at median wage".

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dcrazytoday at 6:19 PM

Can you define “abject poverty”?

marcusverustoday at 7:11 PM

The United States doles out >$30K/year in welfare spending for each person (not household, each person) under the poverty line. And that's just HUD/SNAP/Medicaid. The idea that any significant portion of the US is living in "abject poverty" (let alone half!) is hysterical in every sense of the word.

dismalaftoday at 5:20 PM

The poverty rate in the US is 10%.

https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2025/demo/p60-28...

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zer00eyztoday at 4:26 PM

> half of the US is living in abject poverty while quality of life for everyone is decreasing.

The 350 million Americans looking at the top of the US economy and crying need to turn around and take a look at what's behind them.

There are something like 7 billion people behind them, worse off.

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vdqtp3today at 4:23 PM

> half of the US is living in abject poverty

Anyone who believes this has absolutely no concept of what abject poverty looks like.

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Ferniciatoday at 4:28 PM

[Citation needed]

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bongoman37today at 8:36 PM

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micromacrofoottoday at 4:22 PM

the top 1% have nearly as much income as the bottom 80%

https://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/z1/dataviz/dfa/distr...

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Avicebrontoday at 4:27 PM

It's amazing how few people are willing to admit there is a problem. Spend 45 minutes driving around the state I live in talking to random people and it's painfuly obvious this is reality that some. I suppose it's mostly epstein sympathizers who are pushing the narrative that everything is perfect and nothing needs to be done.