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From brain waves to words: a new path to communication without surgery

119 pointsby alok-gyesterday at 9:29 PM63 commentsview on HN

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Junk_Collectoryesterday at 10:00 PM

It's worth noting that this isn't new technology. This paper is specifically about how their new technique provides a small but statistically significant improvement on existing techniques.

The fact that they provide code and dataset is really praiseworthy.

consumer451today at 12:56 AM

Please see my bio for the full rant. The key take-away is:

> While we missed the boat on Internet tracking, there is still time to avoid sailing through the final frontier of neural tracking.

> Thanks to the BCI, we will soon be offered the trade of our privacy for the convenience of password-free login and faster typing. Next, there will be a quick TSA neural scan prior to boarding...

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alexpotatoyesterday at 10:07 PM

So attended an interesting talk a couple years ago:

- fMRI and/or brain implants are the best to figure out brain waves

- but they are expensive or invasive

- EEG is a lot cheaper and easier but not as precise

- BUT what if you used LLMs to analyze EEG data taken at the same time as brain implants etc

The answer seemed to be that "yes, you can get better than traditional EEG data using EEG + LLMs". Curious to see where this ends up and hopefully not that like that Black Mirror episode with the brain scanning leading to murders.

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bpichetoday at 12:16 AM

I still think of this video often and wonder if it is building on any of that technology, almost 10 years old now. Just looking at this whitepaper it seems like they both use some kind of infrared transcranial light, but never imagined the machine in the original iteration was so big [Regina Dugan's Keynote at Facebook F8 2017 | Inverse] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCDWKdmwhUI

smathtoday at 2:37 AM

Are they trying to infer characters/words from brain waves? I would have thought the brain is thinking in concepts rather than actual words

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albemuthtoday at 12:37 AM

One practical application comes to mind: [China’s Robot Juggernaut Unitree Debuts a $650,000 Personal Gundam ](https://gizmodo.com/chinas-robot-juggernaut-unitree-debuts-a...)

LowLevelKerneltoday at 1:34 AM

There were alpha block classes

t_gamer_kleyesterday at 10:37 PM

And you reverse it to go from words to brain waves! Mind reading at a distance.

mpenickyesterday at 9:33 PM

Now the remaining problem is to make Magnetoencephalography devices affordable and not insanely huge.

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hackermeowsyesterday at 10:05 PM

why is there no live demo? Anyone seen this in action? Can someone share a demo video or something

Havocyesterday at 11:54 PM

Reminds me of the scene in series Incorporated where a megacorp uses this sort of tech to interrogate an employee from a competitor mega-corp to get at a trade secret.

It's a little spooky how real that could now be. Oh and that series was a dystopian series because ofc it was

ge96yesterday at 9:53 PM

The size of that machine

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GaggiXyesterday at 10:14 PM

Someone should try it while sleeping and see if anything is related to a dream.

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dclavijoyesterday at 10:57 PM

great news!, I would like to conversate with my dog...i'm sure he has more important thing than lots of people

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dangyesterday at 10:25 PM

[stub for offtopicness]

p.s. come on you guys - this is not what HN is for. You may not owe $megacorp better but you owe this community better if you're participating here.

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whimsicalismyesterday at 10:17 PM

Interesting -- really excited for the future of human-brain interfaces and just in general more interface exploration enabled by large transformers. I'm already very excited by voice, although wish I could get something akin to the subvoc common in scifi novels. Seems like it would be an easier path than human-brain and would allow me to use voice models in public.

As an aside, disappointed by the very low quality of comments on this article here.