(2017) with a few significant past discussions:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16184255 - Jan 19, 2018

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22020495 - Jan 11, 2020

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29429385 - Dec 3, 2021

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38407851 - Nov 24, 2023

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43087779 - Feb 21, 2025