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jalevtoday at 7:53 AM2 repliesview on HN

Take the first stories I found from this month's Clarkesworld[1] or Granta[2] or BCS[3] and read the prose. Notice the specificity of the language, how the doesn't try to insist upon itself? Notice how very few metaphors are actually in prose? Notice how, even when writing about fictional worlds and concepts, the language used grounds the _stories_ being told and not the concepts?

And then look at the submissions for unslop. This is the best we can get? Cliche-driven, over-metaphor'd, statistically-average purple-purpose _content_? It's sad, really, that we're many years into this entire thing and it still can't produce something that doesn't have my eyes drifting from the page.

[1] https://clarkesworldmagazine.com/khan_07_26/

[2] https://granta.com/here-comes-the-sun/

[3] https://www.beneath-ceaseless-skies.com/stories/the-ecstasy-...


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scotty79today at 9:28 AM

> Cliche-driven, over-metaphor'd, statistically-average purple-purpose

That's high literature for you. That's why so few people read it. Most prefer more down to Earth books, but AI doesn't default to that style.

The problem for AI might be that humans wrote very few good books. If you train a model for literary purposes you should weight training material by quality. Which is hard to evaluate.

> It's sad, really, that we're many years into this entire thing and it still can't produce something that doesn't have my eyes drifting from the page

Since internet happened, I have this problems with 98% of human written books. A book must have some very strong hooks to keep me reading till the end. "Blindsight" barely made the cut.

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sphtoday at 7:58 AM

> Cliche-driven, over-metaphor'd, statistically-average purple-purpose _content_

If this is expected from LLM generated prose, why don't we expect LLM generated code to exhibit the same qualities?

> It's sad, really, that we're many years into this entire thing and it still can't produce something that doesn't have my eyes drifting from the page

It's great. Human creativity is still king despite the attempts to reduce it to a few algorithms for talentless hacks to exploit with the click of a button.

Who but the sociopath would hope to supplant human creativity with a machine they control? I wish your position wasn't so widespread in these parts.

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