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MadnessASAPyesterday at 9:10 PM1 replyview on HN

> The hard part seems to be smooth rapid vertical descent. It's impossible to predict how the prop wash will interact with the wind and push the drone around as it descends into its own turbulence. I was tracking betaflight development for a while and was wondering if we'd ever see some kind of prop-wash calibration. Is there some adjustment of PID gains while descending through prop wash that could improve stability?

The phenomenon is called Vortex Ring State* and it's not a problem that can be solved with a better calibration/control. A basic description of the problem is the prop moves into it's own prop-wash replacing happy lift with sad turbulence. The solutions are to:

1. Don't descend vertically, always have a reasonable degree of lateral motion. 2. Descend vertically slowly, how slow is vehicle specific 3. Angle the propellers so that their thrust angle is off vertical. 4. Descend with no power at all, thus avoiding the creation of prop-wash entirely, halting the descent will require the use of 1-3.

If you do happen upon a solution that can be applied to traditional helicopters there's probably a good deal of money in it for you.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vortex_ring_state


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chasd00yesterday at 9:42 PM

Why not just flip over and accelerate? I bet some in the drone racing crowd do this.

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