alt Hacker NewsHN logic:
Training on copyrighted material
--> bad
Actually distributing copyrighted material
--> good
Needless to say, this is backwards. Any copyright holder will be much more worried about the latter.
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It's not backwards. Which of the two makes a profit? Which of the two comes away richer? Which of the two actually takes business away from the original copyright holder?
The problem is that it is quite difficult to access the published papers is you are not in academia or some company that pays for the access, so AA sort of serves that niche to transfer the knowledge. Training on the other hand is a commercial activity to later rent the model, if this would be purely for open weights I suspect everyone was cool with it.
At least Anna's archive is consistent.
Copyright reform is necessary for national security
It's all about what you actually care.
Piracy helps people who can't afford to pay or have no way of acquiring legally.
LLM training helps megacorps replace people.
If you side with common people against megacorops, you're okay with piracy and against LLM training on copyrighted works.
This could be another fine example of the Goomba fallacy: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Goomba_fallacy
Another explanation might be a general dislike of big establishments like AI companies and publishers (which glosses over individual authors, but they probably make up a negligible portion of total sales anyway).