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petcattoday at 3:35 PM10 repliesview on HN

Am I crazy or is this website not allowing me to opt out of cookie tracking unless I sign up for a subscription?

I know the EU cookie banners have basically ruined the internet, but this seems like a whole 'nother level of obnoxious.


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buzertoday at 3:41 PM

It's called "pay-or-okay" (or "consent-or-pay") and there hasn't been many decisions on it yet which has led noyb to sue German DPAs: https://noyb.eu/en/years-inactivity-pay-or-ok-cases-noyb-sue...

There is one case where DPA ruled in favor of the company, but it's currently being appealed: https://noyb.eu/en/pay-or-ok-der-spiegel-noyb-sues-hamburg-d...

Another one ruled against company and court agreed: https://noyb.eu/en/court-decides-pay-or-okay-derstandardat-i...

Liotoday at 4:47 PM

It's not EU cookie banners that have ruined the internet, it's malicious compliance and dark pattens on behalf of those that want to track you.

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jwrtoday at 4:54 PM

As a reminder "EU cookie banners" are not required if you use cookies for site functionality. They are only required if your site uses these to track users.

This needs repeating, it's a common misconception (deliberately spread by many, too) that the EU requires cookie banners for all cookies.

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mattrighettitoday at 5:36 PM

> Am I crazy or is this website not allowing me to opt out of cookie tracking unless I sign up for a subscription?

Extremely common practice for newspapers websites, unfortunately.

netsharctoday at 3:43 PM

When they force that, it's an invitation for me to open it in an incognito window. Track all you want, assholes!

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GuB-42today at 4:26 PM

Very common on EU news websites.

Workarounds include:

- reader mode

- "behind the overlay" extension (and others like it)

- archive.is

- probably many others

m132today at 4:10 PM

This is what made me disable JavaScript by default in 2018. I didn't even get this banner.

pmontratoday at 4:13 PM

You are correct. Reader mode on Firefox shows the full article though.

stavrostoday at 3:38 PM

Wow, yeah, that seems... illegal, no?

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esafaktoday at 3:40 PM

You Reject the undesirable ones (all!) and click Agree to Selected.

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