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Full Writeup of the Windows GDID

46 pointsby typeofhumanyesterday at 10:02 PM23 commentsview on HN

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rks404today at 4:10 AM

is there a mac equivalent to the windows GDID?

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hyperrailyesterday at 11:47 PM

How a Windows device's global ID is generated may be new info in the public sphere, but the fact that the global ID exists is not a secret. This format of device ID has been in Windows since the initial release of Windows 10 in 2015, when it was introduced as part of Windows' current telemetry subsystem. To see your device's global ID, open Windows Feedback Hub, then go to Feedback Hub Settings and look under Device Information.

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poguetoday at 3:21 AM

So can you change/spoof your GDID easily?

nullbiotoday at 1:13 AM

Can promise you a re-install does nothing for your privacy. Plenty of IDs are embedded in the hardware.

rrix2yesterday at 10:30 PM

one thing this doesn't touch on that I am curious about is how was browsing history, etc, correlated to the GDID?

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stackghostyesterday at 11:38 PM

For those like me who were not abreast of this issue: the FBI was able to arrest some kid who hacked/is alleged to have hacked a jewellery retailer through a VPN. They were able to track the hacker via the user's GDID, which is a stable identifier unaffected by VPN usage.

This surveillance is certainly going to expand in scope as age verification comes into widespread usage. Personally I see little legitimate use case for this telemetry. It seems only useful for the purposes of tracking users for law enforcement or targeted advertising purposes.

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ggerulesyesterday at 10:33 PM

Wasn't this the GUID (Globally Unique Identifier) of early 00s Windows? When did it change to GDID? Are they the same?

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gigel82today at 12:40 AM

> The court record itself says a reinstall produces a new GDID

That's a half truth if I ever saw one. Telemetry also includes the hardware hash (which does use SMBIOS serial number, CPUID, TPM identifiers, etc.) and that one survives OS reinstalls and even hardware swaps. It is the underlying id used for things like Autopilot (the equivalent to Apple's remote MDM lock).

ChrisArchitecttoday at 1:42 AM

Related background:

Windows telemetry used to track web activity, link VPN activity to source IP

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48807767

U.S. v. Stokes https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndil/media/1450651/dl

xystyesterday at 11:03 PM

this is why Microsoft is pushing so hard for Microsoft accounts at install

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