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tremontoday at 10:16 AM12 repliesview on HN

Both systemd and dbus have a similar device id for Linux, which e.g. Chrome reads at startup:

https://manpages.debian.org/trixie/systemd/machine-id.5.en.h...

https://manpages.debian.org/trixie/dbus-bin/dbus-uuidgen.1.e...


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everdrivetoday at 1:10 PM

That's good to know, thank you. I'm been considering moving away from systemd, and certainly don't use Chrome.

The number of things you need to try to keep track of merely _improve_ your privacy is maddening. The whole world seems to be against you.

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heikkilevantotoday at 10:25 AM

I don't like the idea of a persistent id for my machine. Would there be any harm in rewriting the machine-id at every boot? Or just deleting it as part of the shutdown sequence?

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alimbadatoday at 11:22 AM

I went to check if Flatpak would protect against this but it seems although it's a wanted feature it's not so straightforward to implement: https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/issues/4311

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CoastalCodertoday at 10:29 AM

Thanks, I wasn't aware of that.

I have the urge to grab a pitchfork, but I know better than to make assumptions about why that functionality was added. Time to do some homework I guess.

ux266478today at 11:40 AM

Wow, three pieces of software I don't use for other reasons, just gained a new reason to evangelize against them!

heresie-dabordtoday at 12:07 PM

The utility of and presence of unique identifiers in software should be no surprise.

But if you are using TelemetryOS (i.e. you cannot fully switch off the chatter) and your daily Web browser doesn't offer privacy extensions, you are the product.

MisterTeatoday at 1:15 PM

Sounds like chrome is the problem.

jcarranotoday at 2:28 PM

In dbus, it seems the feature is intended for two processes to know they can access the same shmem and other system resources. I'm struggling to understand in which circumstances would that be useful.

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teaearlgraycoldtoday at 1:14 PM

Trying to imagine a world where I use Chrome unironically.

ezoetoday at 11:30 AM

But does browser send these id?

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anthktoday at 12:00 PM

As an Hyperbola user both systemd and dbus are a no-no there.

givinguflactoday at 10:23 AM

Is this specific to Debian?

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