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koe123today at 3:03 PM3 repliesview on HN

As it pertains to military, just wait a few years I think.


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InTheArenatoday at 3:34 PM

The last three times that Europe had a large independent military force(s), things didn't end so well for the world.

International commerce and business and shared democratic norms are a fscking good things. We have lost the people who learned that the hard way, and they are being replaced with people who have never read a history book.

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throwaway894345today at 3:55 PM

While I applaud the strides the EU is taking to decouple militarily, it's still a long ways away from replacing the security umbrella provided by the US military. The EU doesn't even have a single command and control structure (although NATO provides a lot of interoperability between European militaries). It's no knock on Europe's efforts--it's just that the dependency on US military was almost a century in the making--it's not going to be undone overnight. But Europe is moving in the right direction--I just hope Europe stays the course and continues to take it seriously.

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tick_tock_ticktoday at 4:25 PM

You mean decades; especially if they keep up waffling.

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