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wongarsutoday at 3:50 PM1 replyview on HN

That's the British approach

In Germany it's usually the other way around: the EU tries to force us to do objectively good things, while national and regional governments drag their feet implementing EU law or complying with regulations. We regularly have headlines about how we might have to pay fines to the EU, and every time it's for something where the EU seems clearly on the morally right side

And all that despite our government's best efforts to send their worst politicians to represent us in the EU. Describing von der Leyen as a disgraced politician who just failed upwards would not be entirely inaccurate


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khurstoday at 4:01 PM

"In Germany it's usually the other way around:"

Germany is one of most wealthy, powerful and biggest contributors to the EU budget. They can't be bullied round easily.

"We regularly have headlines about how we might have to pay fines to the EU"

The state controls the media... a lot of headlines are orchestrated. But it is done so well, unless you know, you don't know...

Where Germany doesn't agree, it has sway. Where Germany and France don't agree, it is unlikely, and where Germany, France and Italy don't agree it's not going to happen as some countries matter more than others.

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