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epolanskiyesterday at 9:16 PM0 repliesview on HN

Neither of the two are The tipping points.

The biggest VW market is china.

Just to point out, in 2020 one every 20 vehicles sold globally was a VW in China. VW sold more than twice of Tesla at its peak in China alone.

And VW has US plants so it's not that impactful, not different than us automakers woes.