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slopinthebagyesterday at 9:53 PM3 repliesview on HN

The “green movement” and “the environment” but mostly a desire for control. Why should people be able to own private property like cars, we should all be using government owned means of transportation in our new socialist utopia.


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GuinansEyebrowsyesterday at 10:24 PM

"the environment" wants to "force people out of cars"? are you hearing yourself?

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wizzwizz4yesterday at 10:01 PM

Who desires the control? Can you name a member of this nebulous conspiracy? Nobody I've spoken to about this topic has been able to.

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stackghostyesterday at 10:14 PM

>Why should people be able to own private property like cars, we should all be using government owned means of transportation in our new socialist utopia.

Given that electric vehicles including cars, busses and trains all exist, can you explain what relationship exists between the notion of private property ownership (notably cars) and "the green movement"? It is not clear to me why a global environmentalist cabal would seek to end private ownership of electric cars, which have more or less the same drawbacks as electric busses or trains.

Furthermore:

As far as I can tell, the following groups are both wealthy and powerful, and have a financial interest in opposing the end of fossil fuels and/or the end of private property:

- big oil

- coal

- auto manufacturers

- major banks (because they finance loans, including auto loans)

- the governments of oil-rich nations like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Venezuela, Canada (Alberta, mostly), Russia, Iran, etc.

Can you also explain where the "green movement" is getting its funding and lobbying to not only resist but (according to you) completely overcome the influence of the above groups?

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