These kind of comments just spike the conversation and leave no room for nuanced opinions or discussion.

A lot of garbage is also being produced and a lot of people have to clean it up, right? Hopefully that’s not too controversial of statement?

It took him a year to build. So yeah, obviously if someone spends a year working on something with an LLM they can produce a good product.

The slop we're seeing from people using AI is because they pump it out in a month or two and then call it a day.

Are you sure you read that here? I came back yesterday after a hiatus and I’ve been dismayed how many posts are just “yeah, I just run Claude all day” without a hint of embarrassment or shame.

> But I read here every day that agents can't code. And that "real developers" spend more time fixing AI bugs than producing code, and it slows them down.

This is all correct, though. I haven't tried this, but I can guarantee it's a buggy, incoherent mess, same as every other vibe coded app I've ever tried, no exceptions.

don't forget "where are all these beautiful apps that supposedly everybody vibe codes now?"