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Tiberiumtoday at 6:05 PM8 repliesview on HN

It seems to be extremely economical - 4x better reasoning efficiency compared to Opus while being priced at $2/$6. For comparison, GPT 5.4 is $2.5/$15, GPT 5.5/5.6 are $5/$30, Opus 4.8 is $5/$25, Fable is $10/$50.

And by benchmarks (unless they gamed them), seems to be at around Opus 4.7 level, which is what Elon mentioned in https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2074911038286295049.

I guess the Cursor data was very useful.


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HarHarVeryFunnytoday at 6:41 PM

The $2/6 pricing seems to only apply for context under 200K.

Above that (max context is 500K) pricing doubles to $4/12.

https://docs.x.ai/developers/models/grok-4.5

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game_the0rytoday at 8:14 PM

I have a theory that xAI has one of the largest clusters but with far less traffic + tokens to process bc its less popular than its competition, and xAI can pass the savings on to the end user.

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giancarlostorotoday at 6:12 PM

Now if they could have an "equivalent" to Claude's $100 plan with similar compute limits. I have the $40 a month version of Grok and I get a max of like 8 hours of "non-stop" Grok Build coding, per month.

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numpad0today at 8:39 PM

How does it compare to Chinese APIs? It doesn't seem like xAI is meaningfully more competent or any single bit more honest than Chinese labs anyway, so you might as well send tasks straight to China unless theirs is substantially cheaper.

2001zhaozhaotoday at 6:21 PM

Around Opus 4.7 level would be the same as Sonnet 5 while being cheaper overall.

I wonder how good their subscription discount is on both their subscription types.

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minimaxirtoday at 6:07 PM

The comparison may be better against GPT 5.6 Terra (instead of Sol), which is $2.5/$15.

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conradkaytoday at 6:27 PM

Annoying they didn't show benchmarks for several effort modes, since it seems like it might close the gap with Opus 4.8 by cranking tokens up?

Noam Brown (OpenAI) "Implications of Large-Scale Test-Time Compute" https://xcancel.com/i/article/2064210146558136827