alt Hacker NewsI just installed this. I am very confused. I no longer have a Codex app on my computer. ChatGPT is now Codex.
But what happened to ChatGPT? Where am I supposed to casually chat?
Also, when you toggle btween ChatGPT Work and ChatGPT Codex, nothing changes. This is super confusing. Can someone from the OpenAI team clarify the difference btwn the modes? Does chatgpt work have more business-y related plugins turned on by default?
Edit: So it seems like the only place you can actually chat with chatgpt is in an awkward homeless nested window. idk. The chatgpt interface wasn't great (desperately needed artifacts), but I still used it a lot. I can't see this change going well with a lot of the casual users.
Edit2: In their awkward homeless nested chat mode, you cannot even edit past messages. this is a mess, why was the team so zealous to pull the switch on unification in this state? guessing there was internal pressure to juice codex's growth but, based on what im seeing, they did it by torching chatgpt?
Edit 3: Ok so it seems like ChatGPT is still around, but renamed to "ChatGPT Classic". Seems like it wont be long for this world because there's no place to download ChatGPT Classic should you choose to uninstall it. The dmg at https://chatgpt.com/download/ only contains the new ChatGPT.
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It really is a mess. An hour or so ago, the download for macOS was called ChatGPT.dmg. However the app in there was still called Codex. But it installed ChatGPT.
But it seems to be fixed now.
Also, subtitling Work with "For getting work done" and Codex with "For developers" is a bit aggressive towards developers ;)
The old ChatGPT is now ChatGPT Classic. Codex is now ChatGPT.
There is a funny interaction in the Microsoft store, where ChatGPT turns into Codex when you click on it: https://f003.backblazeb2.com/file/sharexxx/ShareX/2026/07/Ap...
(Also GG @ MSFT for opening a nag about Windows Hello twice while I wanted to stop the recording.)
Sad, I liked that ChatGPT had a native app on macOS. I don’t understand why OpenAI and Anthropic have to rely on vending universal apps when their whole MO is code being dirt cheap.
>Also, when you toggle btween ChatGPT Work and ChatGPT Codex, nothing changes. This is super confusing.
This is the weirdest thing. It's completely unclear even if I was using the app for "work" rather than "coding" why I wouldn't just use the "Codex" option. Why even bother toggling? Can Codex actually not do any of the things in "Work"?
I have updated Codex and it's now ChatGPT. And the chat in Codex is badly broken and doesn't support the one feature I use in almost every chat.
Good job.
> I just installed this. I am very confused. I no longer have a Codex app on my computer. ChatGPT is now Codex.
I ... hope we have an option for opting out of this? Otherwise I'm back on T3 Code.
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So will the new ChatGPT (Codex) refuse to respond at all after the 5-hour quota or weekly quota is used up? It always felt that 5.5 on the website was a lot more generous than the Codex version. And at least the website/old app could downgrade you to a lower model if you used up that quota.
The only difference I can see is that the controls for local/remote, branch, and worktrees disappear, and instead it shows office suite plugins. I would presume it affects the system prompt in the background?
Very confusing. But I do find it potentially interesting to treat general office work no differently from coding, which is something I had already been using Codex for in many ways before today
> Also, when you toggle btween ChatGPT Work and ChatGPT Codex, nothing changes. This is super confusing.
By the way, it seems ChatGPT is confused as well:
I think the idea is that there should be no difference between 'casual chat' and 'serious chat'. why not chat in codex
On Windows, ChatGPT is now known as ChatGPT Classic, and Codex is now known as ChatGPT (Beta).
I just downloaded the new dmg and it's the old chatGPT. Maybe they are listening?
Lol what a shit show. It was fine the way it was. Why'd you break it, OpenAI? What product manager talked you into thinking this was a good idea? Don't they have access to ChatGPT to talk them out of it? Of course, I'm a random on the Internet who doesn't get it, but what a dumb move. ASI can't come fast enough.
It’s all ChatGPT under the hood. Even though it says Work or Codex or whatever you can just ask it whatever you want, and it will work.
So let me get this straight:
1) If you have the Codex desktop app installed, and you update from within the app, it replaces itself with the new chat-demoted-to-an-overlay app called "ChatGPT" and renames your existing ChatGPT app to "ChatGPT Classic."
2) If you get the new ChatGPT app and replace your current app with it, you don't get a "Classic" app and there's no way to download it.
3) They really named an app "Classic." Naming your app Classic is putting a bright red sign on it that says "this app will be abandoned soon." They might as well have called it "ChatGPT Sunset."
If this is all true, that is certainly...one way to do product management.