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krecotoday at 2:51 PM

AI is trained on a various range of code quality, including very low one.

I'm paid to provide good quality code and not flood my company with more average code than it should.

In my previous job, I could regularly reduce a PR code down to 10-20%% of its size because someone overlooked something or was just "overengineer" a feature.

AI are such "bullshiters" that they produce more text than necessary.

Code bloat was already real, but from my personal experience it becomes realer with AI. The outcome of this will likely be apparent when no one can dive into any code base because of the amount of fluff in it (and you will obviously need more AI to deal with this).

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amarcheschitoday at 2:18 PM

Just this morning I was trying to scrape nitter, for funsies. One hour and neither gemini nor kimi were able to write something working, despite trying selenium (or playwright), beautiful soup, and a specific library that can be used to scrape it.

I eventually read the library docs and managed to build a scraper for what I wanted in a few mins. Llms are great for a lot of things, but sometimes you stumble in something that's just outside of what they know/can do and you're sol. And of all the thinks, I didn't expect they would fail at this, to be honest the opposite

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gdullitoday at 2:15 PM

People are so desperate for this to be true. Maybe it comes from a subconscious recognition that their own self-imposed deskilling will inevitably catch up with them.

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OtherShrezzingtoday at 2:06 PM

It's unlikely that AI will get to the point where it makes handwritten coders redundant, and then not immediately be at the point where vibe coders are redundant too. So if you earnestly take the position that handwriting code is a "ngmi" type activity, you also need to take the position that the vibe coder (or agent- assisted-developer/loop-architect, or whatever its nom de guerre is this week) is "ngmi".

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klabb3today at 1:58 PM

Why stop there? If you _use_ handwritten products you’re ngmi. I only use vibe coded operating systems, JavaScript sandboxes, compilers, TLS libraries, databases, rendering engines..

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latexrtoday at 2:30 PM

It’s bizarre to me that so many people feel the need to keep parroting this corporate talking point. What do you care? If you think people who eschew LLMs for coding “are not going to make it” or “are going to get left behind”¹, then let them. More opportunities for you, right? Go do your own thing.

¹ As if “moving forward” or “progress” were always a positive. It’s not. Just look at how many regulations we have to forbid or curtail uses of stuff we found to be harmful.

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matt_kantortoday at 2:04 PM

If you don't understand the software you're creating (handwritten or not) you are ngmi.

cmrdporcupinetoday at 2:12 PM

None of us are "going to make it"

Gotta touch grass.

cyanydeeztoday at 1:59 PM

if your skillset is tied to corporate bullshit, yourre better off buying lottery tickets