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throwaway27448today at 12:54 AM2 repliesview on HN

> Steal

It's competition, buddy. If you don't think we got big the same way you're nuts. And anyone who is trying to kill tesla has my money.

Anyway, I don't think there's much worth stealing at the moment. Chinese models provide much better value than any american firm.

> but US could stop all of this by simply stopping their supply.

A) good luck trying to prevent access to a service and b) this is obvious cope. Of course the chinese can compete; there's no american magic beyond "having loads of money and nearby universities", which china has too.


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hoppptoday at 1:18 AM

Anthropic/OpenAI should have full control over who accesses their service since it's basically an API they provide.

Chinese models are great, nobody says otherwise but many of the publicly available ones are distilled and not trained from scratch.

Adding KYC would crack down on distilling because they use thousands of burner accounts to do it and now those accounts would need a face to verify.

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johnsmith1840today at 2:07 AM

It's... the opposite of competition?

A foreign government state sponsoring IP theft and manipulating markets for unfair competition.

Here's a 1:1 example if the USA did exactly the same thing.

1. CIA and Ford work together to steal mercedes IP 2. Gov gives money to Ford to build the same car half the price 3. Throw as many roadblocks at mercedes regulation wise as possible until it is not financially viable to sell in US anymore. 4. Sell the same car back to germany at half the cost they have it because mercedes isn't state sponsored 5. Crush mercedes who created the better car to begin with.

That's not only dishonest but actually harmful for innovation and economic growth. China has done this Sooooo many times it's absurd.