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rtutztoday at 5:03 PM2 repliesview on HN

Climate change already feels chaotic in a sense that earth is heading towards so many tipping points that it is impossible to keep track. In addition, each aspect resides in a niche of a complex system, difficult to grasp. AMOC collapse, melting permafrost methane release, species extinction, intense El Niño, ... All of them are not easily to follow, let alone understand. It's getting wild.

To my surprise, media coverage nowadays is mostly about heat waves as a phenomenon, leaving human impact on it aside.

A couple years ago, I would have expected some kind of awakening with global efforts, but the opposite is the case.


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pstuarttoday at 6:47 PM

It's beyond disheartening. In a sick way, we totally deserve getting hit now because it seemed like a lot of climate "reasoning" was "this is going to be bad for future generations, we don't have to worry about it now".

> A couple years ago, I would have expected some kind of awakening with global efforts, but the opposite is the case.

I'm a literal greybeard who has lived in liberal bubbles on the Left Coast my entire life, and the past ten years or so has rudely educated me at how horrible a large segment of humanity is. We have the resources, science, technology and people to live in an approximation of utopia, but instead we have.... this.

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colechristensentoday at 5:39 PM

>A couple years ago, I would have expected some kind of awakening with global efforts, but the opposite is the case.

The only thing we can do is slightly tweak the exponential adoption curve of solar, it's already here, already the cheapest option, already growing exponentially. We're right in the meaty part of the growth phase of solar and "moral" adoption pushes really don't have much to do with growth any more.

And also there are positives, CO2 is a potent fertilizer and there is plenty of land area which is uninhabitable and unsuitable for farmland which is going to boom with population and agriculture.

We're up for a century of change and migration and people need to change their tune from "oh no!" to "what's next?"

What's next is a lot of migration to the likes of Canada and Siberia and perhaps some active geoengineering building up the new locations around the globe for rainforests.

You have to let go of the past and embrace the future because crying about losing the Earth as it was 200 years ago will get you exactly nowhere.

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