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throw94949499today at 11:13 AM3 repliesview on HN

Just checked with ai about Berkley (I like this uni from telly):

EECS B.S.: You must complete six humanities/social-science courses. Two are Reading and Composition courses, and four come from approved areas such as history, philosophy, arts, international studies, or social sciences. At least two must be upper-division.

https://engineering.berkeley.edu/students/undergraduate-guid...

All Berkeley undergraduates must complete one approved American Cultures course dealing comparatively with race, ethnicity, and culture in the United States

https://undergraduate.catalog.berkeley.edu/earning-your-degr...

We can argue about subject names, but if teacher openly promotes marxism, anticolonialism and misandry, etc..., for me it is "woke garbage", even if the subject name is "history" or "international studies".


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watwuttoday at 1:38 PM

The woke horrors of having take history and composition. Or art and reading. Or, OMG sociology!

Oh no! A class about culture or race or gender! Famously race dont matter, except when choosing military leaders.

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nekusartoday at 12:55 PM

Vouched for this.

When I worked in IT at a second-tier university (not Ivy), I saw some of the classes that passed for humanities. And you have profs who are legit teaching cited facts, and some who teach their political persuasion as facts.

BTW, depending on the school, the hard left/hard right flips. Schools of law, economics, engineering - are usually hard right.

Now its also an experience that conservatives in classes also perceive facts as 'wokeism'. Facts aren't woke, but damn, don't try to say that to them.

And lest to say, Marx did have cogent commentaries about universities regressing to STEM, since in a capitalist economy, the 'profit' is only measurable in how much you can help a capitalist produce. But people still freak out about even teaching Marxism fairly. (Howls of woke.)

What's hilarious is that for all the yelling of 'competition is great', capitalists are incapable and unwilling to compete with socialism and communism, and will do any dirty trick to NOT teach those.

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LPisGoodtoday at 1:04 PM

Putting a broad label of “woke garbage” on simple liberal arts requirements of taking a few classes from “history, philosophy, arts, international studies, or social sciences,” almost does not even justify a response. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you’ve never taken such a class, but I can assure that unless you live in a reality so warped by politics, that basic logic and reason is out the window, classes covering those subjects are serious, thoughtful, and rigorous at accredited US universities.

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