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silver_silvertoday at 1:38 PM2 repliesview on HN

It’s anxiety about tipping points more than conspiracy theories. If you look at the figures in the various scenarios without even factoring them in: hundreds of millions to billions face food and water insecurity. You may be insulated enough from the direct effects but what about what they trigger? Already even our wealthy societies are being strained by rising food prices, extreme weather, and dysfunctional migration.

We don’t know exactly what the tipping points would lead to but we do know it would be some degree of a more severe and abrupt decline across the board.


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hdgvhicvtoday at 2:02 PM

Most conspiracy theories think food grows in supermarkets and because they have a job which pays them a good global income they can just pay a bit more.

simianwordstoday at 2:32 PM

> If you look at the figures in the various scenarios without even factoring them in: hundreds of millions to billions face food and water insecurity

Its exactly the people in the third world that don't need climate change lecture because it is absolutely needed to increase their energy and emissions output to reduce deaths.

Lots of people in Indonesia, Bangladesh, Africa, India _already die_ not due to climate change but lack of productivity.

They definitely don't want holier than though westerners to tell them to reduce their emissions as if it doesn't come at any tradeoff whatsoever.

> Already even our wealthy societies are being strained by rising food prices

False. There's no sustained rising of food prices.

> We don’t know exactly what the tipping points would lead to but we do know it would be some degree of a more severe and abrupt decline across the board.

Its convenient to be vague about consequences. Then you can use the vagueness to oppose whatever you want. Don't like something someone's making? You can just say "but we don't know exactly what the tipping point is so you are not allowed to do that thing".

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