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FuckButtonsyesterday at 7:26 PM6 repliesview on HN

Nope, that’s not true, because they want you to pay for the higher subscription bracket.


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int_19hyesterday at 11:20 PM

Higher subscription brackets are likely worse for them. I recall seeing someone calculate that a fully maxed out highest subscription bracket is something like $15K in tokens?

And people paying $100 or $200 are much more likely to max it out for purely psychological reasons - it crosses that threshold where I want to see my money's worth in full. Whereas people on $20 subs are more likely to be there just to get access to better models and features, and are not necessarily even doing any substantial work.

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jchookyesterday at 7:29 PM

Can confirm — they got me paying $100/mo this way.

Also I think it’s well known that OpenAI is the much less expensive option (in tokens and $$). For the same $20 you get a lot more mileage.

Curious if folks have strong opinions about the overall UX of OpenCode vs CC…

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paxysyesterday at 9:43 PM

That strategy only makes sense if there's an abundance of tokens, but that's not the case. AI companies are spending a ton of resources on improving token efficiency because they are all severely GPU constrained. Anthropic instead nudges you to move to a higher tier by setting rate limits.

tjoffyesterday at 7:53 PM

Well since what you get for your subscription is unknown it would be trivial to get that result without burning tokens.

Especially since compute is such a scarce resource.

tokioyoyoyesterday at 9:12 PM

Generally, companies with >150 people can’t use subs. So yeah, it’s mostly a funnel for devs/small companies to eventually vet for the product and convince their enterprise to use it as well.

bpodgurskyyesterday at 7:43 PM

If they wanted to play games with sub tiers they would just change the rate limits rather than wasting inference.

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