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Telaneoyesterday at 3:01 PM1 replyview on HN

> How far down does this go? Should I be able to contact the individual person who picked the specific strawberries in my carton of strawberries?

Down to the manufacturer of the whole product you're buying. In the case of your strawberries that would probably be the farmer.

> In the Walmart t-shirt example, should I have the contact info for not only the factory but the other suppliers who made the dyes, threads, cotton, the people who made the fuel for the harvester, the people who welded the tractor together?

No.

> Sure, maybe your idealist answer is yes, but from a practical standpoint as the end consumer there is a stopping point.

Of course there is. But you as the sole dev of an app are not at that point.

> My point is that Apple handles the money and the refunds, and they make all the software APIs. Completely closed platform. Why doesn’t the buck stop there?

My local electronics shop also handles the money and refunds when I buy a Dell. I can still get a refund directly from Dell if my machine breaks (not that I actually have a Dell). Yay reasonable laws.

The platform being closed and all the APIs being controlled by Apple are different problems that should be solved separately (which the EU is working on!).


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berkesyesterday at 4:00 PM

> Down to the manufacturer of the whole product you're buying.

In case of an app, what is the "product" you are buying? Because according to Apple, they add a lot of "value" by ensuring the software is safe, performant, etc etc. Am I not buying "a safe, checked app"? Or am I buying an app and then separately pay Apple for an added service of "checking the app for safety" etc etc. I'd very much presume the first.

But if its separate, "an app" can be rather ambigous. For a one-time-purchase game, its clear. But many apps are really a service or even more that happen to have "an app" as one of the ways to interact with the service: Netflix, Uber, protonmail, Vinted (or ebay), etc etc: the app isn't the thing I buy. It's a wrapper around a service. Or even just one of the portals through which I can buy stuff. Point being: It's not simple, so your answers don't fit the analogy of "wallmart".

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