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repeekadtoday at 5:48 AM3 repliesview on HN

Correct me if I’m wrong, but my understanding is Google would love to make more web standards native (including selectors which have improved on chrome but are basically broken on safari) but Apple holds back progress in a (borderline?) anticompetitive way


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thyristantoday at 7:21 AM

I'm not sure if it's Google's fault alone. My impression is, all browsers are holding back on everything HTML-native and JavaScript-free. There have been literal decades of no progress, and only tiny steps forward as of late.

We've had things like https://doc.qt.io/qt-6/qtwidgets-module.html since the late last millenium. Back in the day, there was Delphi, now there is Lazarus, with even nicer Data-Bound widgets. Look at some tutorial for those, that's like magic, and also from before 2000!

Does anyone know why there have been 3 lost decades in native HTML widgets? Any ideas how to fix this?

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chuckadamstoday at 6:07 AM

Because Google is known for holding back in order to not get too far ahead of other browsers?

troupotoday at 8:39 AM

Not Google. Microsoft, of all companies started this project: https://open-ui.org/ when Google was busy breaking the web web components, hardware APis etc.

Google was very, very, very late to the project and of course immediately trampled all over it like they did with all the web standards.

Apple isn't holding back progress on that. They are all in on it, though they do tend to be more cautious than the "break fast and lose things" Google.