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vitalyan8184today at 6:37 PM2 repliesview on HN

oh, I've no doubt the US government and giga corporations can get zero data retention without ten pages of fine print. the rest of us can't.


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lallysinghtoday at 6:47 PM

Unless you spend 5min googling and see that you can do zero retention via AWS Bedrock.

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traceroute66today at 7:34 PM

> zero data retention

Zero data retention is also "trust me dude".

There is no viable way of checking they are actually doing that.

That's assuming they don't put carve-out clauses in, like Anthropic did with Fable, which means data retention is back on the cards, no exceptions.

Also don't forget a zero data retention clause is still subject to the good old "law, or court or administrative order" contract clauses. :)

To get properly close to real zero-retention in a hosted model, you would have to use one of the verifiably private AI that runs in enclaves, e.g. Tinfoil (US) or Privatemode (Germany)[2]. Yes, still not the same as running on your own hardware, but a million lightyears ahead of "zero data retention" "trust me dude" clauses.

[1]https://tinfoil.sh/ [2]https://www.privatemode.ai/

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