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gehstyyesterday at 9:47 PM7 repliesview on HN

This kind of thing just makes me think Apple will get to a point where they have good enough local models and good enough harnesses for doing things, and most normal people will just use them… Does the LLM become another interface to computing?


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c7byesterday at 11:54 PM

Neural machines were always going to be an alternative computing paradigm to von Neumann machines. Had it not been for Minsky we would arguably have gotten to a point where they're useful sooner. But why do you say that as if it's a small thing?

SOLAR_FIELDSyesterday at 10:45 PM

This question hinges on whether model advancement plateaus enough for machine sized models to compare to frontier performance. If it does, the answer is yes. If it doesn’t, the answer is no

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iberoyesterday at 9:52 PM

i agree.

i believe that for most people on the street, for most tasks, a Chat GPT 3.5 era LLM is sufficient enough. sprinkle in tool calling and other things, and that becomes enough. if you can prioritize that level of a model on-device (baking it in etc), then you can bifurcate AI users between those unwilling to pay and those who are willing to pay A LOT for frontier model performance.

bigyabaitoday at 12:02 AM

Why wait? People are already doing their work on OpenAI and Anthropic's servers, Apple Intelligence servers could quickly subsume any "local" model work that you want to do.

That way everyone has access, even with older devices, and it's a subscription! Then Apple can tie their APIs into the ecosystem you love at a flat cost you can afford. No need to support local model integration in the first place, problem solved.

ls612yesterday at 10:22 PM

I have thought this for a while. Computing 1.0 meant that we needed to learn the computer’s language to interact with the computer fully. Computing 2.0 is that now the computer has learned our language instead.

dominotwyesterday at 10:08 PM

or the other way where primary interfaces ppl use computing arent apple devices like laptops and phones.