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seanmcdirmidlast Sunday at 11:51 AM3 repliesview on HN

Alibaba isn’t really the Chinese government though, or are you saying Americans will think that ever since Jack Ma was harmonized?


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derektanklast Sunday at 3:50 PM

I think trying to tease apart the private and public sector is very hard in China. Setting aside state owned enterprises, even nominally private companies that employ at least 3 CCP members are required by law to form a party committee within the company to represent party interests. And given the party functionally is the government, you have a situation where the government has representatives inside every major private company. There’s no obvious parallel to this in western countries.

elmer2last Sunday at 5:13 PM

Any large company in China is only allowed to get this way by direct control from the CCP.

This isn't really anything nee and I thought it was common knowledge by now.

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traceroute66last Sunday at 12:20 PM

> are you saying Americans will think that

I wasn't saying anything about what Americans would think.

I was saying about what they would inevitably be told by US politicians and by US AI companies.

If you were a sales-rep or marketeer at a US AI company, I bet you would be using the old "evil communists" routine in relation to any closed Chinese model.

I was saying that by releasing as open weights, the company has removed that line of argument.

Clearly I was a bit broad in my use of "the Chinese" when in this case it was, as you say, a Chinese company.

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