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torginuslast Sunday at 9:35 PM0 repliesview on HN

This is good and interesting research, and I think it proves Kimi was trained on Claude's outputs, but only for English conversation and essays. Their style is similar, which is tbh somewhat expected for a Chinese company - I don't think most American companies (especially small labs making LLMs) could figure out a good way of talking to Chinese customers, without copying some of the existing Chinese models.

This doesn't imply that Kimi's reasoning capabilities or coding ability has anything to do with Anthropic (which is the most valuable part), or the model's strength comes from distilling Anthropic.

Considering by this benchmark, Opus sounds extremely similar to Fable, this isn't really evidence of a ton of Fable output being trained on (and even then, most likely for superficial stuff, like style)

I also have a suspicion that in original Chinese, these models don't sound anything like Anthropic's ones, though I have no proof of that.