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mmoosslast Sunday at 11:03 PM5 repliesview on HN

The event we need is for you and others to start working, instead of standing on the sidelines telling other people it's impossible.

Humanity has overcome many things by working together. Much of humanity is already working together to overcome climate change. In fact, if the Republican Party in the US would get to work on it, that may be a sufficient fraction of humanity. And if the US led on it, more would participate.


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GuB-42last Sunday at 11:56 PM

It is easy to start working on it when you are rich, but people in the world aren't, and they aren't because we are and we exploit them. And these people don't care about how terrible the next centuries are going to be because they need to survive right now, so climate change is not a priority.

It is kind of depressing, really. We can't even agree on not killing each other. I mean, no one wants to get killed right, and the solution to this is the simplest there is, we just need to collectively decide not to kill. And if we did that, just consider how much resources it would free up: military, security, no need to rebuild what war has destroyed if there is no war.

So if we can't simply decide not to kill each other even though it would be a net, immediate benefit, how deciding to care for climate, which will involve at least a global reduction in comfort for many years before things get better is going to work?

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skybrianyesterday at 1:30 AM

Vague asks like this are empty. Do you have anything specific that you want to advocate for? Favorite charities?

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xyzsparetimexyzlast Sunday at 11:58 PM

Okay. Who's gonna pay me to work on it? I'm looking for a new job. Can start tomorrow

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ColdStreamyesterday at 12:49 AM

I do agree with the sentiment that we shouldn't' just sit back and go "Well its done now!". It is better to try than to do nothing at all.

But when it comes to climate action it really seems like scale and latency has really hidden the full scale of the issue.

It is so big that few if any people really comprehend the hyper object and the systemic nature of it. It is so slow to show up direct results that most can ignore it short term.

I have said that the right lives in denial and the left lives in delusion. The right say it isn't at thing or it isn't a big issue. The left tend to seek technical solutions that aren't all that. Near me is a mural of Greta Thunberg that was put up in 2020, it calls for "Net zero by 2025." that was never going to happen on a time scale like that.

As for the Republicans changing the tastes of the world, unfortunately the one thing that Trump has done very well the last decade is burn through any sense of trust of the nation. Regardless of everything else, trust is the one resource you do not want to run out of, it is the foundation on which everything else sits.

potsandpansyesterday at 12:05 AM

perhaps you could outline the direct action you are taking.