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dragontameryesterday at 4:02 AM5 repliesview on HN

Stan Lee probably had more influence than Walt Disney in terms of how Americans see themselves and how people around the world sees us.

Walt Disney is overwhelmingly about older stories (Cinderella, Snow White, Sleeping Beauty), and not anything I feel distinctly "American".

The most popular and timeless properties out of Disney (ex: Mickey Mouse) aren't really telling stories or setting cultural trends IMO. Meanwhile, Superman and Spiderman (Okay, I know Stan Lee only partially had influence on Spiderman...) are closer to what people see as distinctly "American".


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breveyesterday at 5:53 AM

Who would win in a fight between Stan Lee, Jim Henson, and Walt Disney?

Maybe Epic Rap Battles of History has the answer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXBJIZ1NXFU

jasonfarnonyesterday at 8:52 AM

"Meanwhile, Superman and Spiderman (Okay, I know Stan Lee only partially had influence on Spiderman...) "

it's not like he had anything to do with superman

coldteayesterday at 12:23 PM

>Stan Lee probably had more influence than Walt Disney in terms of how Americans see themselves and how people around the world sees us.

Seriously doubt it.

Both "how Americans see themselves and how people around the world sees them" was established way before both the MCU and before superhero comics became anything else than a preoccupation of the nerdy niche.

In the 60s, and 70s, and 80s, few fucks were given around the world for the Marvel comic universe (they still sold somewhat, just not that important culturally), and it was definitely not how people got to perceive the US: hollywood, the western, rock n' roll, all those were 100x more important. And Disney was way more important than Marvel at the time too.

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LarsDu88yesterday at 5:06 AM

You mean Jack Kirby right? LoL

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