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Eupolemosyesterday at 1:22 PM2 repliesview on HN

No.

> The moral dimension is also completely illusory. Ukraine is fighting a war of attrition that's funding is due to the same cold-hearted power politics that Russia subscribes to.

Blatant gaslighting. Ukraine is defending against an invasion. Russia has said it wants to go further and take what it can of Europe, states that the Baltics aren't countries and threatens us all with nukes on a daily basis.

In Europe we defend ourselves by funding Ukraine.

It is super simple; Russia attacks when it is strong enough and takes what it can.

We tried living in peace, we believed in it. We basically got rid of our armies in Europe, since everybody knows how to live in peace. Except Russia.

We will not make that mistake again.


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mightyhamyesterday at 2:05 PM

> everybody knows how to live in peace. Except Russia.

Talk about an extraordinary case of recency bias. Cheap shot, I know, but I had to make it.

Europe currently defends itself because that's all it CAN do. They abandoned their armies because the continent outsourced defense spending/industry to the United States and Russia following WWII.

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MYEUHDyesterday at 2:30 PM

> We basically got rid of our armies in Europe, since everybody knows how to live in peace.

Wrong. The UK and France have several military bases in the middle east, thousands of kilometers away from home.

The NATO invasion of Libya is an example of how Europeans "know how to live in peace"