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azinman2last Monday at 7:12 PM4 repliesview on HN

The Chinese models are the result of just as many papers, GitHub repos, etc… AND the synthesized results of those.


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lelanthranlast Monday at 7:28 PM

> The Chinese models are the result of just as many papers, GitHub repos, etc… AND the synthesized results of those.

Right, but they aren't the ones whining that other people are getting "the synthesised results" for free.

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anigbrowllast Monday at 11:02 PM

And you can download the Chinese model weights and run them yourself - admittedly not too practical for Kimi K3 unless you're a big corporation, but eminently doable for others. The hardware to run Deepseek r4 uncompressed is about about $30k no=ew, well within the power of a small company or financially secure individual. Compressing and/or getting creative with hardware could bring that down quite a bit.

The difference is that the Chinese are sharing the models with everyone.

vrganjlast Monday at 8:18 PM

Yeah real convenient that the line would be exactly after pilfering all of human knowledge work, but before American model providers.

apilast Monday at 10:58 PM

... and they're at least releasing the results.