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m_w_today at 3:31 PM9 repliesview on HN

It's a bit disheartening to see no comparison to other models here - and I'm not sure this pushes the curve anywhere. 3.6 flash is more expensive than GLM 5.2 - but seemingly worse, although this post is really light (lite?) on details.

It seemed for a time that Google had finally gotten the ball rolling, but I'm doubting that more and more as time passes. We'll see what happens with 3.5 pro I suppose.


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XCSmetoday at 4:52 PM

Here, my comparison of 3.6 Flash vs Sol vs Luna vs Terra: https://aibenchy.com/compare/google-gemini-3-6-flash-medium/...

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florakeltoday at 5:19 PM

It’s really surprising. When Apple announced the multi-billion dollar deal with Google to power Apple Intelligence I thought great things were coming. Instead we are getting more and more bad news: delayed Pro models and AI leadership leaving. I wonder if Apple know something the rest of us don’t know or if they are already regretting their decision.

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CSMastermindtoday at 4:54 PM

All the benchmarks I see put it around the capabilities of Opus 4.8 Medium or Sonnet 5 High.

As far as I can tell it's slightly better than GLM 5.2.

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armarrtoday at 4:09 PM

GLM was twice as verbose running the Artificial Analysis benchmark. So it ends up being more expensive

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Computer0today at 10:19 PM

My usage of GLM 5.2 has been defined by slow throughput and flaky providers, in many (definitely not all!) applications a dumber, faster, and more consistent model makes more sense to me.

sczitoday at 5:17 PM

The one thing I've found google's models to be the best at is proofreading text in non-english languages. Probably because I imagine they have the most training data for it as Google probably has the most complete archive of the internet.

dd8601fntoday at 3:46 PM

> really light (lite?) on

Light. Lite is product marketing seepage.

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ur-whaletoday at 7:24 PM

> It's a bit disheartening to see no comparison to other models here

Disheartening, but not surprising: the comparison would not be very flattering for Google.

lopatintoday at 4:09 PM

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