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linkregistertoday at 6:04 PM4 repliesview on HN

It matters because the closed-source frontier labs spend lots of money on human data (RLHF / RLAIF with human oversight). Moonshot is accused of circumventing these costs. Frontier labs add research costs into their inference pricing. If the market doesn't permit them to sustain sufficient pricing to have a positive cash flow, then their business prospects become weaker and they risk insolvency. Furthermore, other leveraged companies are at risk.

The reason why the United States government is weighing in is because it's in the national interest of the US to have supremacy in "AI".

Legality or lack thereof is one of many data points about whether a thing is noteworthy.

Moonshot performing distillation is rational from their point of view. Reducing costs is in the interest of businesses. It's also rational for frontier labs and the US government to add obstacles to this process.

As consumers this is probably a positive development.


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spaceman_2020today at 6:22 PM

My parents put in countless hours and tens of thousands of dollars into raising me to the point where I could write an answer on StackOverflow

And OpenAI scraped and distilled that answer and gave me nothing

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nojatoday at 6:06 PM

Isn’t that the same argument they are making for replacing human labour?

Circumventing costs.

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andyfilms1today at 6:21 PM

Oh, so mass theft is okay as long as American companies are doing it

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robotpepitoday at 6:24 PM

Chatgpt routinely cites and uses papers I don't have access to because they're behind a paywall. I don't think OpenAI is paying for all that copyright. That's in my opinion way more serious.

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