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krappyesterday at 10:23 PM1 replyview on HN

I can't control how the future judges me, if at all, and I won't let fear of that affect my own morality.

But I don't own other humans as property, so at least I have that going for me.

>I've lived long enough to see a distinct shift in what people consider moral and immoral.

And yet you have no issues making moral judgements yourself, as you so often do in political threads. You seem to believe in the absolute moral good of the US and free market capitalism, and the absolute moral evil of socialism and leftism, but you just can't bring yourself to say the founding fathers were immoral for owning slaves. Why? Because maybe in the future slavery might come back and someone might say "That Walter Bright guy didn't even believe in slavery that shmuck, we should tear down his statues forthwith?" Is that really how you think?

I'll leave you with the last word, since you're starting to go in circles. Good night.


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WalterBrighttoday at 12:06 AM

> Is that really how you think?

Nope. It is wrong that Franklin, Jefferson, and Washington kept slaves. But they grew up in a society that accepted slavery, and so harshly judging them as evil is unjust.

But they did make the leap of getting rid of the notion of nobility, and separating church and state. In that they rose above what was the accepted norm, implemented their new ideas. Those were huge changes for their time, and that makes them great men. That they did not go all the way to today's morality is an unjust indictment of them.

P.S. Franklin, Washington, and Jefferson would have been drawn and quartered if the British had captured them. Are you that brave? I doubt I am.