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pretendgeneertoday at 3:20 AM7 repliesview on HN

I think you're misunderstanding "codeberg is political".

Everything is political, FOSS is political, GitHub is also political.

When people say "We're not political", or "That's not political". What they're actually saying is that it's within my own politics.


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tbrownawtoday at 3:44 AM

No, there's a big difference between "net effects are not guaranteed to be perfectly neutral" and "I am going to intentionally put my thumb on the scale".

The position that everything is political so therefore opinions are mandatory intentionally conflates these things.

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causalmodelstoday at 3:55 AM

My issue with this is not that codeberg and its members want to uphold a certain set of political beliefs. Any private organization is free to do that. It's that they haven't defined the rule that's supposed to encode those beliefs.

As written, the rule is a non-exhaustive example of "content that harms codeberg's reputation". Someone asked in the pr whether "cryptocurrency-related" is defined anywhere and it merged without an answer. The responses to wording concerns was essentially they will figure it out later. Moves like this don't fill me with confidence.

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vintermanntoday at 8:06 AM

Not every question is political, so it's often fine to say "that's not a political question".

But which questions are apolitical questions, is itself a political question.

pluralmonadtoday at 6:30 AM

This seems like a useless definition of political.

altmanaltmantoday at 3:28 AM

No I understand that. But the point I am making is saying that is much stronger than saying "our policy says we won't host crypto projects going forward". The latter is fine, any service provider can set terms as they fit within the law. But if you claim you are highly political, you must invite further questions into it.

How does Codeberg handle the diverse mix of politics within it and manage its influences? If we give the organization a character by calling it political, we create an obligation to explain further.

Overall, again I feel this is a self-own to project idealogue this hard since you flavor it in a specific way that is not inclusive.

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bigstrat2003today at 5:30 AM

No dude. Most things are not, in fact, political. When I enjoy a meal, that isn't political. When I hang out with my family and friends, that isn't political. When I sit down to read a nice book with a cup of cocoa, that isn't political.

The notion that "everything is political" is an indicator that someone has an extremely toxic relationship with politics. Basically you're projecting your unhealthy level of political engagement onto everyone else, and insisting that we all have that manner of thinking (but are just denying it to score political points). Well that isn't true, and for your own sake I encourage you to stop that. You'll be much happier when you stop making life about politics.

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