logoalt Hacker News

Astronomers may have found the first exomoon

159 pointsby MarcoDeweytoday at 2:02 PM56 commentsview on HN

Comments

delta_p_delta_xtoday at 2:33 PM

Worth noting that the artist's impression is... not accurate. Both CD-35 2722 b (the brown dwarf orbiting the primary star) and CD-35 2722 b I (the exomoon orbiting the secondary) should be much closer in size. It is estimated that Jupiter is essentially the largest any gas giant can get; adding more mass will simply increase density and interior temperature until deuterium and lithium fusion and brown dwarfdom, and then at around 80 Jupiter masses, protium fusion and stardom.

Look at Barnard's Star[1], which is actually a fusing red dwarf star: it is not much bigger than Jupiter.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnard%27s_Star

show 3 replies
hdztoday at 2:22 PM

A small dense planet, which orbits a star, is orbited by a larger gaseous moon. It's interesting the discovery is in Chile which has some of the best night skies, a Class 1 on the Bortle scale specifically in the Atacama Desert. Hoping to make it out there one day.

HelloUsernametoday at 2:20 PM

An important phrase from the article to consider before commenting: "This system is somewhat hard to define using Solar-System-based words like ‘planet’ and ‘moon’"

show 1 reply
pelagicAustraltoday at 2:11 PM

I know this is besides the article and all, but why would the Chilean flag be the only one to have 8px left margin? This is killing me...

    <div style="margin-left: 8px" title="Chile" class="sprites-flag_cl"></div>
show 2 replies
Foskyatoday at 2:19 PM

I guess it is more of a derivative of the question: "in which bucket should we put the brown dwarf? Is it a star or a planet?". The answer is neither of course; but since it is more closely related to stars than to planets, I'm more inclined to call this satellite an exoplanet (instead of exomoon).

That being said it is still a nice finding, way more difficult to discover than "normal" exopanets.

show 3 replies
_joeltoday at 2:38 PM

Brown dwarfs fascinate me, they can be at room temperature (range from about 2,800 K down to 250 K (roughly 2,500 °C to -23 °C / 4,500 °F to -10 °F)

You could basically have a bath in a brown dwarf, sure you might not last long, but still...

replatformradartoday at 3:13 PM

About time!, I cant wait till we start putting large hardware on the dark side of the moon. That will make JST look like a toy.

show 1 reply
bluGilltoday at 2:27 PM

I wonder if this thing in turn has something in orbit around it? At the size I wouldn't surprise me if it had satellites of its own in orbit, leaving open the question of what to call them. (I'm no astrophysicist, is this really possible I don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me. What would surprise me is if we could detect them)

show 2 replies
walrus01today at 2:22 PM

> Instead, it circles a brown dwarf, an object larger than a planet, that orbits the CD-35 2722 star.

Isn't the dividing line between the largest possible gas giants and the smallest brown dwarfs a bit fuzzy?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substellar_object

show 1 reply
PowerElectronixtoday at 2:34 PM

I really wanna call it a planet. It doesn't orbit a proper star, but if we call similar objects that don't orbit a star at all rogue planets I don't see why not call it just a planet.

astrolxtoday at 2:56 PM

Nice result, but I find they are selling it a bit too much. I'd rather call it an exoplanet (orbiting a brown dwarf orbiting a star).

benabbotttoday at 2:14 PM

this would actually be a planet, based on my understanding of celestial bodies? moons are natural satellites orbiting planets. this "moon" is orbiting a brown dwarf.

show 5 replies
codeddesigntoday at 4:34 PM

Outside of the small probability that this may assist us in the future, has looking beyond our moon ever benefitted or even affected humanity in any way?

show 3 replies
ck2today at 4:41 PM

Literally not a moon, that headline is ridiculous (not posters fault)

but Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope WILL find Earth-sized exoplanets and even REAL moons

I am stupid-excited to see it launched/first-light in my remaining lifetime (Musk better not screw it up)

For perspective on the technology, JWST "only" has 28mbps downlink

NGR has 500mbps downlink, that's right 1.5 TERABYTES PER DAY download speed

all from ONE MILLION MILES AWAY in L2 (11 seconds ping time!)

Technology is getting amazing!

mangattoday at 4:58 PM

nice work

bellowsgulchtoday at 2:09 PM

I nominate Moon 2: Electric Boogaloo.

rimworldtoday at 2:51 PM

lol

haihaoxutoday at 2:14 PM

[dead]

carlosjobimtoday at 3:51 PM

[dead]

Razengantoday at 2:53 PM

Obligatory: "your mom"

show 1 reply