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DiscourseFanlast Thursday at 5:54 PM5 repliesview on HN

I believe the Russians and Chinese recognized this years ago, which is why they are using their propaganda machines to make Americans hate datacenters.


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Cthulhu_yesterday at 8:48 AM

Call me a shill but I don't need foreign nations telling me what to object to when the problems caused are obvious.

Mind you, I blame governmental mismanagement of infrastructure etc just as much. The datacenters followed procedures when it comes to getting land, electricity and access to water; it's the government agencies / personnel that okayed it that are (also) to blame, and the decades of not enough investment in electricity backbone while promoting solar/EVs that is behind the Netherlands' current electrical grid problems.

(problems being that the grid is at capacity, causing a stop on new connections, with relief only slowly coming in the next decade or so with tens of billions of investments).

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dualvariablelast Thursday at 6:22 PM

American Capitalists don't really need any help there; they're making Americans hate Data Centers all on their own.

1659447091last Thursday at 6:39 PM

> Russians and Chinese [...] are using their propaganda machines to make Americans hate datacenters

Are they though? or is that the story the people most invested in ai have an interest in making us believe? [0]

... `it's the foreign bad guys propaganda machines making you believe your city struggling for water and electricity is a bad thing`. People as a whole may not always be the brightest, but threaten their immediate survival needs (ie; not some vague climate change most people don't understand or see, but) actual power outages, water and rolling blackouts -- people will quickly pay attention and care.

[0] https://text.npr.org/nx-s1-5844328

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quentindanjoulast Thursday at 6:19 PM

Is there a source? Or is that xenophobia?

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Mistletoeyesterday at 1:31 AM

If anything the Chinese and Russians made us run up our economy on nonsense AI dreams and the crash will take a decade or more to recover from.