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Introducing selfie for sign-in: a new way to access your Google Account

79 pointsby lkurtzyesterday at 7:00 PM65 commentsview on HN

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trollbridgeyesterday at 9:10 PM

  Your Google Account holds a lot of valuable information, from cherished photos to important emails and documents.
Stuff like this is why I and many other people are going out of our way to make this no longer the case.
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Cider9986yesterday at 8:49 PM

>If you've violated a Google policy, we may save your selfie video for a longer period of time to enforce our policies.

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stevenalowetoday at 1:44 AM

Introducing...a feature no one actually wants, that opens a brand new security attack surface. Much wow.

pudgywalshyesterday at 7:57 PM

I'm waiting for the new killer feature where "Sign In With Google" popup overlay dialogs go away forever and never come back.

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iosjunkieyesterday at 9:08 PM

I would love to know how they are going to handle deepfakes.

Also, doesn't this give law enforcement an easier avenue to compel access to someone's accounts?

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xnxyesterday at 9:25 PM

If there were a Doomsday Clock for how close we are to "please drink verification can" (https://files.catbox.moe/eqg0b2.png), scientists would now move it to 3 minutes to midnight.

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andunieyesterday at 8:37 PM

The fact that most people will love this is depressing.

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muppetmanyesterday at 8:57 PM

Google already have 5,000 odd photos of me anyway in Google photos. I'm screwed either way.

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iamnothereyesterday at 11:11 PM

I guess next this will be required for new account setup, then to retain access to your existing account.

Time to move the last few things I have out of Google (mostly shared documents). I’m glad I started this move several years ago.

arm32yesterday at 8:12 PM

Respectfully, John and Claire, what do they have you guys doing? Please blink twice in your selfies if you're okay.

thisislife2yesterday at 7:57 PM

That's Google in a nutshell - "the more personal data you give us, the more access you can have to Google services".

navsyesterday at 11:01 PM

If this means that Google will do eventually do age verification then I think I trust them more than I trust Persona.

gitowiecyesterday at 9:27 PM

I happily will provide my selfie with one brown eye and round pale face

LorenDByesterday at 9:07 PM

Certainly this will never go wrong in any possible way.

tiffanyhyesterday at 10:09 PM

Is this basically “Video KYC” as required in some countries to open a bank account?

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fhnyesterday at 8:14 PM

Next on Google's list, blood draw for sign-in.

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praetyesterday at 7:56 PM

April fools?

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srameshcyesterday at 10:03 PM

Sounds like a bad idea on so many layers. I don't want to give more selfies for training, feels like a disaster about to happen

charcircuityesterday at 9:34 PM

This already exists and is called FaceID and doesn't have the same privacy risks since the face check is done locally to allow the user to use the passkey to authenticate.

>Your selfie video is encrypted at rest

All data nowadays is encrypted at rest. That doesn't really matter since someone stealing a hard drive from Google with your information on it will never happen. The more likely risk is Google decrypts it and then sends it somewhere it shouldn't go and potentially trained into some AI system.

newswangerdyesterday at 10:31 PM

I had to double check that today isn’t April 1st

superkuhyesterday at 8:50 PM

Meanwhile google has been locking out and closing the gmail accounts of people, myself included, that signed up before a phone number was required. If you don't log into your account for ~a year or so they will lock it and demand you log in. Which you can do, and you can even input the 2FA code, but it still won't let you log in because it says "there's not enough information to prove this is your account" despite having all the information ever associated with it. The only way to prevent deletion is to add a completely new, never before there phone number. I couldn't do that so they deleted mine saying I never logged in despite logging in literally dozens of times.

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nicceyesterday at 9:48 PM

I thought it is already April Fools for a while...

ProfessorLaytonyesterday at 8:54 PM

This seems like a terrible idea because deepfakes are getting better and better, even with them mentioning them and handwaving concerns away.

schaeferyesterday at 10:01 PM

If only they wouldn't be evil... ugh.

angoragoatsyesterday at 10:29 PM

I am surprised and encouraged by the fact that almost all of the comments here are negative!

I would absolutely delete/abandon my Google account before voluntarily giving them my facial data.

moritzwarhieryesterday at 8:00 PM

This sounds... totally normal.

Emphasis on "totally".

But I guess Google coming out with a cloud-based FaceID clone was just a matter of time...

apart from using just a vastly larger amount of 2D photos and more precise PI techniques, instead of that stupid local-only, small-AI-based, 3D-scanning technique that falls back to passwords...

eh, I prefer Apple as my good cop ever since I can afford Apple devices

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kotaKatyesterday at 9:34 PM

I'm surprised how fast this came from the whole "give us your hand" bullshit with reCaptcha not being that long ago.

https://docs.cloud.google.com/recaptcha/docs/hand-gesture-ve...

"Google analyzes one or more videos of a user's hand as they perform various actions or gestures. The video is processed to extract hand landmark data, which includes 21 hand-knuckle coordinates."

leet-stick-7299yesterday at 10:31 PM

Thats gona go well in history.

guessmynameyesterday at 9:26 PM

ikirisyesterday at 9:59 PM

Wow this is a terrible idea. I used to really respect the security and identity team what happened?

Qisionyesterday at 9:49 PM

Next step is to require the full transcript of your genome!

/s

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