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elmer2yesterday at 7:14 PM3 repliesview on HN

We have continued to find backdoored Chinese manufactured routers and network devices.

Will there ever be a way to fully audit Chinese models?


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efficaxyesterday at 7:22 PM

will there ever be a way to fully audit american models? hell, at least they're releasing the weights for these so they actually could be audited!

samrusyesterday at 10:15 PM

You have the wieghts for the chinese models. Go ahead and run whatever tests you want.

The american models on the other hand are too powerful for simpletons like us to be allowed to use, but we can be assured its all in our best interest, citizen

tomrodyesterday at 7:18 PM

Audit them for what, exactly?

Backdoor hardware is straightforward -- its letting people in that the customer doesn't authorize.

Open weights means you aren't tied to any harnessing. So the security domain to be really concerned about is limited to weights only, and I welcome pushback on that.

Are we thinking adversarial injection? Lying about history / propaganda infusion? What is the angle that makes a non-sovereign model dangerous in a way a sovereign model isn't?

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