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kamranjonyesterday at 7:41 PM5 repliesview on HN

No benchmarks, no info on which models are used, ai generated video, just a signup page with nothing else.

Anyhow, this kinda reminds me of that quote about architecture: "We replaced our monolith with micro services so that every outage could be more like a murder mystery."


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adam_ridayesterday at 8:07 PM

The evaluator is public here: https://echo.tracerml.ai/eval/

It currently exposes 907 stored rows across seven benchmark families, with prompts, outputs, grades, and cost records. More benchmarks are coming soon.

Echo does not disclose its per-request routing decision because that policy is the product. We can, however, publish some of the eligible open-weight model pool, version dates, aggregate allocation mix, and evaluation settings without exposing the request-level recipe.

New video is also being made.

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guessmynameyesterday at 7:43 PM

> No benchmarks, no info on which models are used, […]

The benchmarks are here → https://echo.tracerml.ai/eval/

They are not good benchmarks but at least they exist.

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codekansasyesterday at 8:16 PM

It's basically trying to replicate OpenRouter, which works pretty well and has a lot of nice features to abstract away any single provider, such as failover, metering, autoswitching, etc. It's actually a really smart infrastructure abstraction.

I just wish this were solving an actual problem rather than being a fairly transparent attempt to say something approximating, "Hey VCs, OpenRouter just became a unicorn but I can basically vibe code it"

Calling it "Fable-level" feels intellectually lazy / dishonest, but then again, what do you expect when there's so much money on the table.

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dimitrios1yesterday at 9:06 PM

Unrelated - but reminds me of my favorite quote by tenderlove:

"microservices turn function calls into distributed computing problems"

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j45yesterday at 7:58 PM

It's easy enough to copy and paste in a prompt, no?

Eval tests while giving general indicators might not be similar for each use case.