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m463last Thursday at 9:30 PM2 repliesview on HN

I kind of wonder how the orders of magnitude work out for solar and wing area.

Solar cells are actually quite thin and could be almost like paint on the wings of aircraft. I wonder if the energy generated vs required is even ballpark. There is plenty of sun at 30,000 feet during the day.


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mk_stjameslast Thursday at 10:20 PM

Man this is a middle-schooler level napkin math question.

Take a Boeing 777, it has a wingspan of about 60 meters, and I'll ballpark an average upper wing chord of about 7 meters, for a total upper flat area of about 420 square meters.

High quality modern but standard single sided solar panels can do about 220 watts per square meter is full sunlight (around 22% efficiency tested at a 1000w/m^2 irradiance).

So that is 92,400 watts at full power.

92kW is less than the peak power of a Nissan Leaf. 92kW is 123 horsepower.

The two GE turbofans of a 777 are generating something like 40-50 MW of shaft power during cruise. MW.... megawatts. 50-60,000 horsepower.

Plastering the wing surface of a commercial plane with solar panels would make up less than a quarter of a percent of the total power it uses to produce thrust at cruise, at best case with them fully-lit.

Fully solar sailplanes do exist (NASA's Helios prototypes are an example) but that isn't anything close to a 'normal' aircraft with any appreciable payload/passengers.

So, no need to wonder.

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dvngnt_last Thursday at 10:26 PM

Aptera for airplanes would be cool. I doubt you could generate enough power in-flight, but maybe after sitting outside for a few days