alt Hacker News> and more corruption-free nation
I'm really rooting for Ukraine here, and it looks like they are well on their way to succeeding pushing Russia out.
But the corruption issue ... for this particular problem, old habits unfortunately die really, really hard.
When corruption has become interwoven into the fabric of a society the way it has in Ukraine, and for such a long time, rooting it out will be very, very hard.
This kind of stuff typically requires two generations to die out and a super strong, long-term political will.
I hope they'll pull it off, but it won't be easy.
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> corruption has become interwoven into the fabric of a society
It is part of every society, but Ukrainians and the west perceive it as a problem for Ukraine while, say, Danes do not, although Denmark [1] is utterly corrupt in its own ways.
Corruption is problem only for states that underwent recent political transitions and where class struggle has not been a thing for various reasons. Ukraine improves quickly, but signs of improvement are not in the corruption perception indices but in people manifesting their opinions on the streets, like in the recent ousting, then re-hiring of the Defense Minister.
When socialism gets a chance to push its culture into a society, it really all goes down the drain hard and fast, they are great at using natural circumstances to push a revolution, but what they do with the conquered societies is beyond horrifying. The Inter-generational damage in corruption and zero-sum distrust is staggering.
Any examples of nations that succeeded in this regard? (currently corruption-free states)