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wasfgwpyesterday at 2:04 PM0 repliesview on HN

> costs hundreds of billions to develop - to BOTH US and China

OpenAI and Anthropic are extremely bloated compared to the Chinese labs. They have thousands of extremely well paid people working for them. Deepseek I think has a couple of hundred and I doubt they are paid a lot.

Of course compute for training is expensive but I doubt that’s necessarily the overwhelming majority of the operating costs for Anthropic/OpenAI

> on a market economy and non-state-owned labs

Sure the private companies developing these models are heavily interlinked with and even maybe partially owned by the government. But its a matter of degree. Since that’s the situation in the US similar in how these companies both shape government policy directly and in how the government is constantly intervening and shaping their behavior outside of any regulatory framework.

The US government is both heavily protectionist and interventionist these days.

> next guy

Good try GPT-5…