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viktorcodetoday at 4:43 PM10 repliesview on HN

> the app enables communication even during network restrictions and creates a substantial risk of misuse by anti-national elements, terrorist organisations, organised criminal groups and cyber criminals seeking to evade lawful detection and continue communication despite legally imposed restrictions.

This mouthful boils down to exactly this: a form of communication not controlled by the government creates a risk for the country.

Sorry for pointing out the obvious, but if your country's safety depends on ability to block all forms of private person to person messages, your government has failed in one of its primary goals: providing safety for its citizens. They can blame Dorsey, Telegram, WhatsApp and what not, but it is their failure. Things will not change until people notice the obvious and vote out incompetent persons in power.


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adityaathalyetoday at 6:18 PM

Hilariously (darkly), during the pandemic, the very same reason is why the very same administrators were hell-bent on forcing Bluetooth-always-on contact tracing on the whole country's smartphone-carrying population.

(edit: viz. that forcible peer-to-peer bluetooth networking works. One man's unrestricted mass-surveillance is another person's "terrorist activity". Oh how the turntables turn and turn.)

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hamper653today at 9:22 PM

> Sorry for pointing out the obvious, but if your country's safety depends on ability to block all forms of private person to person messages, your government has failed in one of its primary goals: providing safety for its citizens.

Sorry for pointing out the obvious, but "providing safety for its citizens" is not, has never been, and never will be a "goal" of any government on this planet.

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tavavextoday at 6:35 PM

I wonder how long it's going to take until we have universal communication monitoring, including in real life. It's not an impossible technical challenge, it's just a question of time. Every spoken word recorded forever and scrutinized. After all forms of distant private communication fall, the spoken word will be the last one remaining. And all these arguments they're making apply to it, too.

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t0bia_stoday at 8:13 PM

and vote out incompetent persons in power.

How you can vote someone out?

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noncomltoday at 9:26 PM

“incompetent persons in power”.

The fact that they can get away with shit like this makes them pretty competent in my book.

To me it’s the opposition that’s incompetent, not being able to put an end to the circus.

rolphtoday at 6:03 PM

you are being too charitable in your evaluation.

cucumber3732842today at 5:07 PM

>This mouthful boils down to exactly this: a form of communication not controlled by the government creates a risk for the government.

Fixed that for you. It's a subtle but important difference.

There is only partial overlap between what's good for the government and the country. At some times in some countries the overlap may be substantial, or it may be scant if at all.

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mothballedtoday at 4:46 PM

Those "protections" are in place for the protection of the government, not the citizens. That's also why the US tried to classify encryption as arms and why they passed the gun control act (people nowadays might think modern gun control was passed to help school kids, no lmao, it was passed in response to the killing of JFK).

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darreninthenettoday at 4:44 PM

Playing Devils Advocate... isn't this the government taking action?

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ifh-hntoday at 4:58 PM

I'm not condoning this but what would you suggest they should be doing to keep people safe?

I'm fairly sure whatever they do you'd likely be complaining about it. Glad to be wrong though.

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